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Wanted to. >> speedy one. okay, thank you for joining us today. this is what eric clapper said three months ago. he said does the nsa collect any type of data at all on hundreds of millions of americans. no, sir, it does not. not willingly. there are cases where they could collect enough for me, but not willingly. what did he not know it was not being truthful? >> when you talk about targeted collection and just data collection, aggregated data collection. you're talking about putting on this data. if you have a probable cause to have a reason to go back and look for it. if you have the name o...

Joining us now is columnist of who is counting. irs is tasked for being "a", non-part an and neutral but implementing 47 provisions of obamacare. can they do this fairly? >> it's very unclear. the attorney general of oklahoma currently has a lawsuit against the federal government claiming the irs has broken the lay by taking on to itself the power to issue subsidies and various other things to the states and to people involved in obamacare. so that is very questionable. a lot of constitutional scholars are saying the irs aggregated a lot of power to itself that didn't have a right to do. there...

Could figure that out, a little female common sense here saying, you don't wait until the crisis, no. we're in a mode now in washington where we just lurch from crisis to crisis. we sort of lurch from fight to fight. we have one or would issues at a time that blow up. right now we're going to do immigration. we'll see what happens there. before it was guns. maybe we'll go back to guns. but we have these major crises, things blow up. we're going to go off the fiscal cliff or whatever it is. sometimes we do something. most of the time we don't do anything. people get more and more aggregated 'ca...

More popular, more broadly, than they actually were in the actual electorate. and that ended up being a real political liability running nor national office. i think that's not the case in the districts. i think it does end up being maladapted at the national level to being wrong conservative how they are. >> there's something about a guy like chris christie out of step with new jerseyans on gay marriage and funding, and yet he's able to retain his popularity. part of that is due to sandy, but that's an interesting case case. >> but does our democracy work? not to ask too profound a question, ...

Care act. i want to go back to this organizing point. the town hall meetings that happened that july 2009 on the affordable care act, the polling for health care reform was at 60%. >> right. >> and literally, the polls drops precipitously during that three-month period, down -- as a result of that. >> because public opinion was not a firm thing on the affordable care act, you know what i mean. >> people were firm about they should have that and the government should do something about that. >> i think the final concept we have not really addressed here today is not just public opinion as a lin...