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Look both party are in great ferment. i like the odds of the republican party far better than this modern, get along, go along party. it's now got this huge tea party thing which brings negatives as well as positives. as we found in the nixon/agnew/reagan era, this can be the beginning of something big if you can bring the coalition together. >> david frum? >> unlike the nixon/agnew era. a third voters now have a college degree. this is a country where educated women are an ever more port of the electorate decision. it's not 1970s america anymore. >> but, david -- >> the problem is the republi...

Isn't it great that this independent american rejoins the republican party? you're a republican -- >> i'm an independent in virginia. >> republican? >> independent conservative. >> republican party. >> pat, can i tell you -- >> no. >> you just said our party. >> it's hard. >> one of those for a long, long time, chris. >> i want to know -- >> as bob dornan used to say, in or out, buddy. >> i was an independent. ran as an independent in 2000. you join the party because you're independent in virginia. there's no party registration. do i vote republican? almost every time. >> but you feel in your ...

I'm happy they're overspending. >> isn't it great how mr. independent american occasionally rejoins the republican party. are you a republican? >> i'm an independent in virginia? >> are you a republican? >> no. >> you just said our party. was that a freudian slip? >> i was one of those for a long, long time, chris. >> as bob dormer used to say, in or out, buddy. >> i ran as independent in 2000, and you are independent in virginia, there's no party registration. so i can't say i'm a republican. do i vote republican? almost every time. >> so you feel in your soul that you're a republican. >> i'm...

Congressman, i was there raising money for you. i saved your bottom. you are voting for that. and clinton's, of course, sitting over there just laughing his head off and they got the houses, where you just knew, despite what everybody was saying, as i said with the '93 bill, you just sense it's got to pass because the alternative for the party in power -- >> on the amb vote nixon got in '69, it was in the senate and getting down to 50/50 and they're at camp david, and agnew was there. nixon says, you better get going because you need to get in the agnew says, president, there are some things i...

Land in the water, put a payload on it. >> first of all, that we have to make it clear to them that any kind of an attack is something that will be met by force. different from what the president said is he was starting. he was talking -- >> athlete. >> threat. >> north koreans should know we won't sit idly by and let our people hit. >> they are essentially saying we'll let these fall into the water to prove a point. should the president preemptively strike to stop it? >> i think it's hard to say. the results, the decision would have to be made based on all the consequences and based on the fa...