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The optics of what they thought was important on this day and what the president is doing politically, i don't think the american people -- i don't think they're going to -- i don't think they're going to really buy into this at all. they're going to see this for what it is. >> that's exactly what i was going to say, sean. this back fired on them miserably. miserably. all we saw -- and i think geraldo brought up a great point about mccabe. once again throwing out disinformation and lies, speculation about the possibility. here is the deputy director of the fbi throwing out rumors and lies with...

>> i think it was pathetic the timing. they easily could have postponed it 48 hours, 72 hours to let the world focus on this profoundly significant event. but there's something that i need to tell people that they have to be reinforced about. a week ago mccabe, the former acting director of the fbi was promoting his book saying it was possible that the president of the united states was a traitor, was an agent of the russian federation. he said it was possible. he was asked the question repeated it. so he had president trump being suspected of treason just a week ago. now where are we? zero, n...

Did you order a counter-intelligence investigation into the president? >> i did. >> is that tantamount to saying you felt there was reason to suspect that he was a national security threat? is that what it means? >> it is saying that we had information that led us to believe that there might be a threat to national security. in this case, that the president himself might, in fact, be a threat to the united states national security. >> those are remarkable words. we have heard a lot of comments about the investigation through the years. that's a former acting director of the fbi saying the fbi ...