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Does that mean his dry cleaner knew, his grosser? >> he told "the new york times" he told a senior campaign person but -- >> i take no second chair to want to skewer donald trump. >> absolutely. >> in this case -- >> make bernstein look -- >> the idea they were using him as an emissary seems highly unlikely. >> highly unlikely. i'm skeptical. i think generally where we're at is there are -- it's plausible some of this happened and it's normal and yet you could also make an argue amount that there's something untoward. these are the two things i would suggest. one is trump has the ability to de...

Bicycle accident in november. and three term new york governor mario cuomo is remembered as a political giant. the democrat who served the state from 1983 to 1985 after andrew sworn for new york governor. senior quo moe, known for the keynote speech on the democratic national convention when he shared lessons he learned from his italian immigrant father a grosser in new york city. >> i watched a small man with thick calluses on both his hands work 15 and 16 hours a day. once literally bleed from the bottom of his feet a man who came here uneducated alone. unable to speak the language who taugh...

Grosser, a man who wound up a three term governor of new york, considered for the supreme court and courted for the presidency. mario cuomo was a forceful liberal. the the first italian american elected to lead the empire state, serving 12 years during fiscally challenging times during the '80s and early '90s. he sealed his reputation as a spell binding speaker at the 1984 democratic national convention. >> in many ways we >> in many ways we are a shining city on a hill. but the hard truth is74 i that not everyone is sharing in this city's splendor and glory. >> uncommonly skilled, ruthless an...

Something even more important i think, fareed, they democratize the conversation. my father's father, my grandfather, was a little grosser, butcher, no knowledge of the arts at all. wonderful man but a simple immigrant. my father became a professor of 18th century english literature. you could go to school and walk into an english department and so when people say well, the humanities are elitist, it's just the opposite. it's when we don't have humanities departments that that conversation about civilization is elitist. when we have them at universities it means anybody can take part. >> wasn'...

Right now. but in the long run obama care and government spending have a depressing effect. you have to look at long-term implications. i will tell you that those bids le business leaders are looking long-term and how that is not good for the american economy. they are looking long-term. $24 billion is how much the 16 day shut down took out of the economy. we could be back here in three months. how bad is this for everyone? >> i don't know how everyone comes up with quantifying it. i will use the term default. it is protecting under the 5th amendment. if you don't pay the grosser you go bust a...