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but watch and i'll get you there. >> when you start turning around lawyers with the defendants that are defending the clients. we start to live in a fascist state. >> that is not much of a defense? ? >> he served as trump's attorney during the election. do you expect that he's going to vote the fifth amendment? or a sequel to argue attorney-client privilege as so many have done? >> i think is going to invoke any privilege he can pick up. realistically, has been told he's a target, he should. it'll be foolhardy to go in there and answer questions. i think he will try attorney-client p...

Sure we did not generate stigma. and so i have not work in hiv public health for many years. and specifically, working with the lgbtq a+ community. having that intentionality, learning from the history of other infections that did not go the right way, like hiv. from the perspective of generating stigma. it became clear that the right strategy is really to provide clear messaging and guidance to people that made sense. and was really across the board the right sort of information based on the data and knowledge we had. and then, really focus on communicating through trusted messengers to peopl...