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Things, material things were left out of it, that calls that whole talking point into question as well because it would indicate that, in fact, the transcript was cleaned up. >> general spider marks, always great to have you on. i like to bring the conversation back to why this aid matters. and it's not just a political question here's ukraine. it's at word with russia. 13,000 ukrainians have been killed. tell us in the simplest terms, why does it matter in this ongoing conflict that that aid was delayed for political reasons. how would that undermine the ukrainians? i'm just curious, would ru...

Non-sof fi non-so fist cats. >> roger stone is saying people don't know the difference. the culture and people not in day-to-day politics to try to grab ahold of that power to say american, dre democracy is on t line. >> i don't know if it's fair to say it matters. but name id matters. when you show up, it matters how notorious you are and celebrities always have an advantage and given that reality, how do you manage that for good. >> you are making a point when you say name id matters when alecia keys says, you don't know my name. >> everyone knew trump's name. before he became president he w...

Poverty has been hard to eradicate in africa but things are starting to lift there. >> what is making the difference there? >> some of these countries have implemented a lot better economic management policies and some of them have implemented things like electrification projects that have helped. and getting a handle on some of these health crises has helped also. >> it sounds like direct aid which we have been trying to do for years just doesn't have the impact that economic reform and economic growth has, right? you sound like either a jack kemp republican or a paul kruger democrat. we have...