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Spirit. and they really bonded over that. they were serious about politics, they understood, as my old late client harold washington, the former mayor of chicago used to say, politics ain't beanbag. they both understood that. but they also understood why they were doing what they were doing, and it wasn't just about whether the red team won or the blue team won. >> and then jeff zeleny, hopefully you're still with us. i know you're outside. you're still with us? >> reporter: yes. >> i wonder if you could, if you know much about the crafting of this program. we know president biden will be spea...

And conservatives defend the indefensible on the character front. you can't have it both ways. so which is it? so i think what they're -- again, this is -- i kind of chuckle to myself, actually, when kellyanne conway came out about that. the self-righteous, oh, she should be heard. really? well, then we apply the same standard to this administration, a lot of people, including the president of the united states, wouldn't hold up. they wouldn't stand the scrutiny. so they need to have it both ways. one other really quick thing. what's concerning me as a conservative about this situation, i init...

President didn't say mccain's name though he had multiple opportunity, the name being on the bill, does it say something to you? >> yeah, i think it shows that he cannot rise above his petty differences with john mccain, who as we all know is dying. and this is somebody who is at the end of his life, a very storied career, including in the republican party very important person to the republican party. which is why this is named after him. it's something he worked on. and so to not give him credit and not be able to acknowledge that, i think it just looks extremely petty and small. you somebod...

Differences with john mccain, who as we all know is dying. and this is somebody who is at the end of his life, a very storied career, including in the republican party very important person to the republican party. which is why this is named after him. it's something he worked on. and so to not give him credit and not be able to acknowledge that, i think it just looks extremely petty and small. you somebody who deserves some recognition, especially at the end of his life. >> michael, should the president have thanked mccain? >> i don't know. this is -- politics ain't beanbag. and senator mccai...

I support his decision to hire john kelly and i'm looking forward to the future. >> so there you heard it. mike, i want to start with you, you know reince priebus, you were his chief-of-staff. what do you want to say tonight about how this went down and how he was treated? >> first of all, i'm really proud of reince not only in the way he's conducted himself through all of this but the way that he's handled everything that he's done since he became chairman of the rnc. politics ain't beanbag and reince knew that the president likes to have a team of rivals that comes in and argues over policy ...