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$400,000. john boehner says $1 million. i thought those were both significant concessions on both sides. and the white house is waiting for a return phone call from boehner, and the next thing he's doing a press conference on this plan b. >> i think a little bit, he's buying time. he's also trying to buy an alternative for his conference, give him something to vote for while he tries to build support for something they don't want to do. boehner with truth serum will say taxes are going up. there's a 0% chance that taxes aren't going to go up. if you're a republican, you're boehner, you're tryi...

Things have changed over the past 10, 15 years. they're separate, and i know people that, you know, in sort of the political bubble say, well, you're talking about two completely different things when you talk about negotiating and washington working together, negotiating on this bill and what happened in newtown. but in middle america, nothing happens in a bubble. people are still shattered by that. and anybody that is dragging their feet, fighting, seeming petty less than a week after -- i'm sorry, this is the worst tragedy i can think of as far as just shattering the soul of this country. i...

Bill? >> no, i missed it. but i have covered the four instances of mass gun violence under obama, and i have to say the scariest thing to me with respect to newtown was when i g-chatted my fellow editor in new york to plot out coverage, and we knew exactly what to do because we had done it three times before. it had gotten so routine and so disturbing to us and i'm worried i'll be writing the same story. >> we can't desensitize ourselves to this, though. >> listen, we're not going to. i've heard about '68 as far as what califano said and how quickly we have to move. this is different. the horr...

That culture. you need to explain to people in upstate new york and in rural wisconsin and in alabama, mississippi, georgia, all the places, that what chuck schumer is saying, hey, it's a bit of an education campaign. they're not coming to take away all of your guns unless you want to have a clip that will spray bullets in rapid succession at kids over a five-second time period. >> well, that's why it's important, as andrea, the always-missing sam stein said earlier -- >> where is that guy? >> -- that joe biden is heading this. i mean, it really is -- joe biden was made for this role. he put t...

Have to vote for except for 25 of them. i had to do it as speaker. do you know what it was like for me to bring a bill to the floor to fund the war in iraq? so it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point that you don't want to put your members on the spot, figure it out. we did. figure it out. >> you figure it out, richard, when both sides are dealing with each other in good faith. and i think it's important to note that the president was at $1.6 trillion. he's at $1.4 trillion. that ain't nothing. i think that requires john boehner, if we're playing in good faith, to publicly go from 8...