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Next. i don't mean just legislatively. i'm talking about the after. after the police tape comes down, after the memorials seem to go away, after the cameras leave, after the names of those that we have lost are heard less and less on our air waves than they deserve. and maybe it's out of self-preservation, i don't know. maybe it's compartmentalizing. your focus is going to shift, and you're going to find yourself maybe trying to forget about these incidents that are so tragic, where people were killed just doing the very activities that you probably did to today, going to school or a doctor's ...

There. you heard the next guest reporting in kelly's piece. carol lee joins us part of it and with a new article. carol, you're reporting sharing a byline with many colleagues on this. what did you find out where the frustration is coming from? >> well, willie, really, the broad frustration in the white house is there's a feeling the president's message is not getting through. particularly on the economy. i think that's why you've seen them try to really re-emphasize, these going to focus on inflation in the month of june. with the fed meeting, he's going to speak on friday, they're blitzing a...

About the alleged shooter and the planning and the months that he spent becoming radicalized and consuming all this -- what the president's called poison, what's your reaction to that? it just seems like we keep learning more and more about this individual. >> the radicalization of this individual, the level of hatred in the heart and head of this individual is stunning. it's staggering to know that that kind of hate, that kind of evil, that kind of premeditated evil exists in our nation, exists in the state of new york. i think much more has to be done about social media and hate speech on so...

Group. >> what did it do to hear the president of the united states call this domestic terrorism? >> the president came to buffalo, new york out of deep concern for this event and the pain and anguish of people in this community. the pain that the families of the victims of this brutal attack are feeling. and the president did not mince words. he called this out as domestic terrorism motivated by hate. he also spoke very powerfully and condemned white supremacy as evil. talksed about white replacement theory as a fallacy, as false information being spread by pundits over air waves and in socia...

Or visit your xfinity store and talk to our switch squad today. when our next guest disappears from our air waves for a while, it's because he's doing some deep and important reporting and that's exactly what has happened. tim alberta reports out what's happening right now and describes it as a war for the soul of the american church. a deep and worsening fissure among evangelicals, a split that at least in part has to do with the role that politics plays in their faith today. it's the basic premise of this extensive piece of reporting, published in "the atlantic,"