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Organization one, aka wikileaks. stone has denied communicating directly with wikileaks. how significant is this? >> well, it's significant that this is the first time we've seen prosecutors, special counsel prosecutors, making this allegation. remember, they didn't mention this in the indictment against roger stone, and they're saying this is the first time we're hearing them say that they have what they say are records of communications between wikileaks and roger stone. now, we don't know what the content of that communications is essentially. we've seen in the past there have been some dir...

Wikileaks during the campaign. and there's more. we've learned today that mueller's team has interviewed white house press secretary sarah sanders. hopefully she told them the truth because that's not exactly her forte lately, her style. and they're likely to have asked questions about the statements she made on the podium defending the president on the russia investigation. we're going to have more on all of that mueller news coming up. but we've got to talk tonight about our national emergency because we really do have one right now. not the president's manufactured crisis on the border. i...

Of those things the government has never seen before in this unique combination. well, it just solidifies the mandate. remember, people who are always wondering why this is a connection to trump and how he tries to inoculate himself. remember, the mandate mueller is following is not to figure out how to implicate trump. it is whether or not somebody who was part of the trump campaign had ties that could lead to a collusion-like behavior. well, as max points out, you've got somebody who as a campaign -- the chairman of the campaign is involved -- the government, who is based often all the case ...

Released documents stolen from the dnc. so does the fact that stone seemed to know those documents would be released look like coordination to you is the question. >> well, it has for some time because, you know, this has been widely speculated just because what was out was known publicly. and of course this indictment, at least in my mind, just confirms that. >> yeah. more from the indictment, all right? after the july 22nd dnc e-mail dump. a senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information organization 1 had regard...

Nothing. and then there is the state of the union. nancy pelosi not budging on that either. >> the state of the union is not planned now. what i had said to the president is when government is open, we will discuss a mutually agreeable date, and i'll look forward to doing that and welcoming the president. >> chuck schumer may have said it best. >> no one should ever underestimate the speaker as donald trump has learned. >> a word of advice, though, chuck. don't spike the ball. don't be a sore winner. all right? all of this on the same day the fbi came for roger stone in an early-morning raid a...