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A lot of criticism of the commission they have taken relatively easy lines on the knee of the witnesses that have appeared you know the process that has gone relatively slowly but that the zoomer appearance of all those on the commission was fascinating you know the general consensus rightly so was a lot of what he said was completely sort of you know out of kilter with reality and with the truth of whats happened in south africa but actually his purpose of appearing there was ultimately political and was focused within the a. N. C. And on those terms actually i think he was quite successful in terms of driving a wedge was his desire inside the party and so i think you have to treat him very carefully and ultimately a lot of this stuff is internally focused within the a. N. C. And that internal focus means that they can be distractions from dealing with some of the big issues the structural forms yes so easy great to talk to pieces many thanks for being with us and counting the cost. O ....