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Pain. those people in the key states who might have been obama voters who came for trump who want to have their pain addressed in some fashion, biden's got that capacity. >> so, alaina, we had the wizard of oz gave me this great number out of the polls. democrats who say my main concern is beating trump, biden is very high. my suggestion is he has to prove he's the fighter who can win. this is going to be a very basic fight for the soul of america election. i really believe that. i don't think it's going to be won on policy other than the policy of who we are and what we're about. >> right. th...

All right. we're back with our "a" team. we have alaina plott, sabine ya sadiki, david gregory. you know, the best conversations are always in the commercial. not tonight. you were saying before we came on air that there's a measure for joe biden you believe he needs to reach. what is it? >> i think he's spending so much of his time on the defensive. i don't think he has his progressive voice yet other than saying don't forget i stood by barack obama for eight years. he's say, i can beat trump, i can work with republicans and i'm not as bad as the progressives say. i'm actually more progressiv...

Trump still feels the need to litigate and can't kind of quash and put to rest personally really does say something. >> and it is not just mccain. it is george conway and one after another. >> other than mitt romney and johnny isaacson, some words from lindsey graham and mitch mcconnell, but you are talking about 51 senate republican and less than a handful have spoken up to draw a line. that says a lot too. alaina plott, good having you. and let's talk about boeing. was that boeing 737 max 8 ever safe to fly? the justice department has issued several subpoenas into boeing's certification an...