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They might have turned it back. we see this development on one side of the spectrum. >> one of the good things i think you are saying is we begin to see in the polls that a.p. just put out. 8 in 10 americans want to limit the big money now coming into the system. you do see americans see that their vote is being taken away with big money. when you get 8-10 americans saying this is a bad ideal. that is a bad ideal. i think you will see some movement on it. >> "the new york times" had about the oil and coal money and subtle ads why you should not vote for barack obama. we are talking about major...

That spread like wild fire in 2011. in 2012, 23 states. while alec has shut down that committee that pushed this law, you may remember that at the rnc convention, voter i.d. was part of their platform. we can't divorce this from at the end of the day, this is about politicians who have manipulated the rules in order for them to win. on the other end, the losers of this are democracy. the losers of this are the people who were most impacted, elderly, veterans, african-americans and latinos and young people. this is a place where the colleges, over 80% of the colleges did not have expiration dat...

Democracy is on trial and we will have to see and get a decision in the next week or so about this law. >> let me ask you something about how this law ends up showing up in pennsylvania. i want to bring in alec. we talked a little about about this previously. alec is the organization that does all kind of model legislation. they currently have said, their statement is that alec has no policy relating to voter i.d. and it would probably be best to find someone else to talk on your show. that was their statement to us when we asked someone from alec to come on and have a conversation about this....

Law and potentially some others. we have seen alec begin to back away from sort of this. >> the american legislative exchange counsel, 40 corporations have left. we at common cause have filed the whistle flower complaint. they claim they are a charity, 501-c 3, not the c-4s that don't have to disclose their donors. alec says we are an educational charity. we don't spend a dollar on lobbying. they have this bill that's being pushed out across the country stopping eligible people to voting. >> that's why it is important to report like yours which exposes this. these movements are very careful to...