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Arrested. it is exactly the same principle — arrested. it is exactly the same principle here. when you overstep the mark, — principle here. when you overstep the mark, we need to use the law to bring _ the mark, we need to use the law to bring you _ the mark, we need to use the law to bring you to — the mark, we need to use the law to bring you tojustice. the mark, we need to use the law to bring you to justice.— bring you to 'ustice. cameron, is that true. — bring you tojustice. cameron, is that true. you — bring you tojustice. cameron, is that true, you are _ bring you tojustice....

Alienating people do, you're losing your message by these destructive actions. 50 your message by these destructive actions. , ., ,, your message by these destructive actions. ,, , actions. so you think people will actions. so you think people will act less on _ actions. so you think people will act less on the _ actions. so you think people will act less on the climate - actions. so you think people will act less on the climate crisis - act less on the climate crisis because of what we have done? i just because of what we have done? i 'ust wonder if there i because of what we have done? i 'us...

To miss the target. lets about his conservative party going to miss the target.— to miss the target. lets ask him. aled, let to miss the target. lets ask him. aled. let me _ to miss the target. lets ask him. aled, let me bring _ to miss the target. lets ask him. aled, let me bring you _ to miss the target. lets ask him. aled, let me bring you in. - aled, let me bring you in. you're 21, climate change will affect all of us over our lives. is cameron's tactic not the way to raise the profile of something that will hugely, significantly affect our day—to—day lives? ida. hugely, significantl...

Difference will it make? with me is aled luckman, conservative councillor for alvechurch and chair of the west mercia police and crime panel. cameron ford is also with us, an activist with insulate britain. it is good to have you with us this afternoon on bbc news. cameron, maybe i can start with you. i wonder what you have heard of what the home secretary said this afternoon and what you will do differently, if anything, as a result of these new laws. i anything, as a result of these new laws. , , ., , laws. i believe you were 'ust saying she is going — laws. i believe you were 'ust saying ...