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Ukraine as part of their portfolio. it was very disturbing to them and rightfully so. >> so vindman also writes about the july 10th meeting between t top. he says, on july 10th, 2019, the secretary of the national security and defense council for ukraine visited washington, d.c. for a meeting with national security adviser bolton. ambassadors volker and sondland also attended along with energy secretary rick perry. the meeting proceeded well until the ukrainians broached the subject of a meeting between the two presidents. the ukrainians saw this meeting as critically important in order to sol...

Which would undoubtedly result in ukraine losing the bipartisan support it thus far maintained. >> right. >> wow. >> they'll say, yeah, that didn't happen, though. i get his concern. good for him. we respect his sense of duty. but when he says ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with the president. >> mm-hmm. >> that will set up like a quid pro quo if, if you believe that the investigations he asked for. >> mm-hmm. >> were asked for to benefit the president politically. and they're going to argue no. >> yeah. >> so he will not move the needle on that, mr. ...

Statement from lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, the national security council's top ukraine expert. he is expected to testify at the house impeachment investigators tomorrow, that he actually listened in on the july 25th call, heard president trump lean on ukraine's president to investigate joe biden. he was so disturbed by what he heard, okay, and so concerned that it was damaging to u.s. interests that he reported not once but twice. and here's a quote. he says, i did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen, and i was worried about the impl...

We're back now with our breaking news. the national security council's top ukraine expert planning to testify tomorrow that he was so troubled by the president's call with ukraine's president that he reported his concerns to the top nsc lawyer. joining me now is the former director of national intelligence, mr. james clapper. director, i appreciate you joining us. thank you so much. vindman was -- his name is alexander s. vindman. he was on this phone call on july 25th with the ukrainian president. in his opening statement, he says, on july 25th, 2019, the call occurred. i listened in on the c...

Investigations in order to secure the meeting with the president. >> mm-hmm. >> now that will set up like a quid pro quo if, if you believe that the investigations he asked for -- >> mm-hmm. >> -- were asked for to benefit the president politically. and they're going to argue no. >> yeah. >> so he will not move the needle on that -- mr. vindman -- nor should he be expected to. the lieutenant colonel is about establishing the facts, what they mean, what is the consequence. i just had one of the best minds in the party on. this guy, dan crenshaw, if he wants to, is going to be a big party player...