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Justice, angel mom sabrina coulter joining forces with acting dhs secretary chad will send other lawmakers to call for change. they got together in raleigh, north carolina. ice officials claiming jails are refusing to hand over dangerous illegal immigrants to the agency and joining me now his angel mom and director of advocates for victims of illegal alien crimes, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> tell everyone at home a little bit about what happened with your son. >> my son, my only child, dominique was working for the sheriff's department in riverside, ...

Central america. >> rachel: one way to bring these numbers down is to do what democrats want, to decriminalize illegal entry into the country. is that something you agree with? >> jessica: no, i don't agree with that. i don't think that will be on the platform. a few candidates feel that way. joe biden, who is in the lead, does not. we have to be very clear when he talked about violating the law when these are people who are asylum-seekers, which is their legal right. it's not fair to lump it into the conversation. >> tom: first of all, no one on this couch is going to educate me on illegal al...

Law center, the media matters all over a democrat that would say such things, the kind of things that obama used to say, bernie sanders, and all the reformers of low-wage foreign programs that are displays -- displacing the tech industry, you don't hear it anymore. mother joe used to be at the forefront of acknowledging the impact of mass, illegal immigration, especially among lower wage workers who were americans. i mean, the democrat party does not care about american citizens, it does not care about american victims of the illegal alien crime like ms-13, and they do not care about american ...

Would be all over a democrat that would say such things, the kind of things that obama used to say. bernie sanders, and all the reformers of low-wage foreign programs that are displacing the best and brightest in the tech industry, you don't hear it anymore. mother joe used to be at the forefront of acknowledging the impact of mass, illegal immigration, especially among lower wage workers who were americans. i mean, the democrat party does not care about american does not care about american victims of illegal alien crime like ms-13, and they do not care about american workers.place bring a it...

Wall in may. by the time they drove down there, he flaked on it because the right wingers touted. he's playing politics. >> steve? >> i agree it's about politics. the politics are that nancy pelosi and democrats hate donald trump so much they will -- >> they hate the idea of a wall as a panacea for a complex set of problems chrmany of which th wall -- if you build the wall, crime will fall. >> it will fall. that doesn't mean crime will be eliminated, it will fall. here's the thing about illegal alien crime. you're right, we have a lot of crime in the united states. there's ways we can and shou...