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treated here at temple university range from the 20s all the way to the 80s. >> wow. >> and they are just not only locals, but also people from around the world. they have seen people from as far away as albania. >> wow. our prayers are certainly with the families. ayman mohyeldin and joy reid thank you for your reporting. joining us now, two former national transportation safety board members kitty higgins and john golhi. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> kitty, what stood out to you from the ntsb press conference? >> well, what stood out to me rev, when member zumwalt said the emergency brake was applied by the engineer which meant that the engineer was in fact in control of the train, and he used the emergency brake as opposed to what i could consider the normal braking system. so the question for me is what was he doing in those minutes before he realized he had to apply the emergency brake.

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