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That is one among many reasons why we should have nothing to do with the death penalty.

That is one among many reasons why we should have nothing to do with the death penalty.

Joining us is allen alt, former warden of the diagnostic and classification prison where he oversaw executions for the state of georgia. thanks for your time tonight. please describe what happened today from your understanding how this usually plays out. >> as commissioner of corrections, i was involved in several executions. it's one thing to talk about it abstractly but when you're in the death chamber ordering an execution, even in your mind, if you're a man of conscience actually believe somebody is guilty, it's still a very premeditated murder. it's scripted and rehearsed. about as premed...

I can't see the justification. if we're just reaping vengeance for somebody, i don't see the justification in that either. i talked to a lot of families of victims who didn't feel fulfilled after the execution took place. i can't speak for all the families of victims, but i know i've talked to many. >> dr. allen alt and rachel maddow, thank you for staying with us. coming up, next, barry schect of the innocent project and barry. stay with us.

Deter crime. i can't see the justification. if we're just reaping vengeance for somebody, i don't see the justification in that either. i talked to a lot of families of victims who didn't feel fulfilled after the execution took place. i can't speak for all the families of victims, but i know i've talked to many. >> dr. allen alt and rachel maddow, thank you for staying with us. coming up, next, barry shechectf the innocent project and barry. stay with us. [ man ] behind every business is a "what if."