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I talked about the facts. the law where they go wrong is they say, oh, it's in the constitution. article 12 of the constitution only provides that the vice president counts the vote. that is when there are no challenges, no alternate -- so that's a lie. and what is their explanation to that? the vice president wouldn't violate the constitution and let it happen. that is affecting the law, the constitutional law by which we succeed. it seems to be they have no place to hide. i don't know if you know shakespeare's quote, guilt spills itself for fear of being spilled. they say what better insult ...

By your staff, by your office to the january six investigation and they appear to be looking at this in multiple states. can you tell us anymore about that? about your office's involvement about you receiving this information, and indeed passing it on? >> well, yeah. first, all just emphasize that this is precisely why the work of the january six committee is so critical. there are dozens of ways, just like the one we're talking about, in which the former president, in many of his supporters, attempted to interfere with the integrity of our elections. so, with this investigation, we've been ab...

That is not 5g -- it has 5g bombarding it, then you have several systems on my airplane that could be affected. thrust reversers, collision avoidance, speed breaks, all these things that are critical flight safety tools that you have on the airplane may operate erroneously, so i've got a 25 page bulletin to review prior and then coming into the airport, if it's an alternate. i could go on and on. the bottom line is this is still very complex, and it's nestled in the reality that this is about safety. >> well, yeah, and i guess that's what a lot of passengers want to know, right? nobody wants t...

Supreme court, found that biden won, and you would put in what you call alternate -- >> the supreme court. >> hold on, let me finish the question, and you would then support these alternate, or others call them fraudulent electors, you don't see a chance that that could be against the law, boris? >> it is not against the law. it is actually according to the law. >> got to be quick here with you, jeff, what's your take on that? >> sure, you know, as a trial lawyer, there is absolutely no way i would have let boris epstein testify or speak on msnbc if i was his counsel. he made admissions agains...

The interesting thing about the new mexico electors is that thought one in pennsylvania shared similar language with the caveat saying about these would be the correct electors for that state. but, only if republicans prevailed in their legal challenges. this is not about the other states said. so, when you ask some of the legal authorities in these states about potential prosecution of crimes, pennsylvania actually said that this did not necessarily rise to their level of crime, potentially because of this carve out in the language in the certificates. >> that is fascinating. that pertains ex...