Person on the panel -- thank you, kennedy. no, anyway, as the person on the panel who i think would be on friendly terms with these people i would like to talk about the substance of joe rogan's criticism which is about not recognizing the strengths of these alternative platforms which is really where everything is going. everyone has created a streaming service, fox nation, cnn plus, chris cuomo and on lemmon avenue podcast coming out because they're moving to alternative forms -- i think you can listen to it next week. it's very exciting. speak about jesse is right about that, that joe rogan...