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Few of his songs. he's not really that much of a political thinker in general, one way or the other. we never had conversations about it. and so when i'm around him, like i can easily not talk about politics with him because i never did talk about politics with him. >> right. you've been real focused on criminal justice reform particularly. >> yeah. >> and really in the weeds of it. a really interesting initiative in louisiana, which is one of two states in the nation that you don't need a unanimous verdict. >> correct. >> to convict. that's something you're working on? >> yes. >> and then the...

See people talk about it, even today, right, people running ads right now, these are crooks, these are bad people, what -- did your mind change? did you have a sort of world view shift when you actually went through being convicted? >> you know, going through the process i went through did teach me a whole lot. i think that's one of the things that we see is that every once in a while you find somebody who has a reaction to what we're doing. we've found we've got this 20 minutes and a cup of coffee rule, you can get them to support amendment 4. it's common sense stuff. it helps create saufr co...

This is a bipartisan issue. it is not black. it's not white. it's not republican. it's not democrat. it is a basic american value. our basic right as guaranteed by the constitution as a citizen of the united states. >> that's our reporter trymaine lee covering the amendment 4 issue in florida. watch the full report this week on msnbc. in 34 days, millions of floridians could regain their right to vote. amendment 4, which is on the ballot, would automatically restore voting rights to felons with the exception of murderers and sex offenders who have completed their sentences. it needs 60%. felon...

Crimes. >> yeah. you seem like your outlook, it's a time in the country where a lot of people feel like it's very dark times. you hear a lot about how raw and we're watching the kavanaugh hearings and all of the sort of sexual trauma that people are dealing with, assaults. you strike me as someone with a very kind of optimistic in your is outlook about things. >> i am. i think i'm naturally optimistic. so my kind of disposition is to be optimistic. >> because i talk to people that are news junkies all the time. you can imagine. people are wound up like that. >> well, i get upset by the things ...

To vote? >> it would mean the world, that i can do something about it by punching in the ballot, you know? >> do you know amendment 4 is to restore voting rights to individuals, it's time to let my people vote. this is a bipartisan issue. it is not black. it's not white. it's not republican. it's not democrat. it is a basic american value. our basic right as guaranteed by the constitution as a citizen of the united states. >> that's our reporter trymaine lee covering the amendment 4 issue in florida. watch the full report this week on msnbc. in 34 days, millions of floridians could regain thei...