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Middle class in this country and need to cut taxes on businesses so american companies can be more competitive and be able to bring dollars back to this country to create jobs here and we need to simplify the tax code. >> sandra: that's vice president pence speaking in support of tax reform as the house moves forward with its bill despite pushback from both sides of the aisle. this as senate republicans are expected to release their own bill tomorrow. so what will be in that and will it match up with the house plan? joining us now is john thune, the chairman of the senate republican conference...

Republican party on budget passage yesterday. now for biggest tax cuts. worth noting that budget passed narrowly, which shows you just how tough tax reform or tax cuts are going to be. let's take a closer look at the time line. in the next five days, we expect that we will get a bill from the house, out of house committee. then november 6th, the goal to start the amendment process. they're aiming to get passage in the house by november 3rd. and then as you say right before thanksgiving passage in the senate. based on my conversations with officials here behind the scenes, that is somewhat unre...

The situation. how important is that distinction? >> important. because remember, don, this comes amid the proposal in florida that essentially doing this legislatively, putting more regulations and restrictions on bump stocks. now, if you do it through the atf, that's not a legislative -- that's sort of an issuing of regulations to the executive branch as opposed to a legislative solution. bob has got it right here. this is a strategic move by the nra because they now if it goes to the legislative front, we know there's an amendment process. you've got 535 members of congress who are going to...

Atf, that's not a legislative -- that's sort of an issuing of regulations to the executive branch as opposed to a legislative solution. bob has got it right here. this is a strategic move by the nra because they now if it goes to the legislative front, we know there's an amendment process. you've got 535 members of congress who are going to want to have a say if not something in that bill, it can get loaded up in different ways, wind up getting broader, wind up going in directions you can't really control and it's a guarantee that we're talking about this for a month. who knows how long the de...

Kasie hunt eye roll. >> we went to college together. i have seen it all. listen, i don't think so but the question is john mccain has talked about regular order, process, doing things the right way. if they get on the floor and do this through the amendment process, is that the right way? i would say no. but there are those on the hill -- >> john mccain says he wants a cbo score. even if they do get to the floor and start debating this for the next few days before september 30th, and say they are able to resolve some differences, that still wouldn't resolve one of the things he talks about in ...