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Rules, norms and basic standards of fair play are out the window. two, the kind of crude bloodsport entertainment vibe that trump has sort of dragged our whole politics down to. i could see, you know, if trump is ever gone, we'll see if that happens, you know, after that we could sort of see maybe a bit less of the bloodsport, but it's looking to me like a lot of the hardball will be escalating. again, the left will have a strong argument to make to democrats if that happens, that you have to match that. >> author of "an uncivil war" greg, thank you so much for the conversation. >> yes. comi...

21st, christ, when he got indicted this became about do we want a lawbreaker to be our lawmaker, can we trust somebody to pass laws he can't follow himself, it's about something that transcends partisanship. it's a post -- it has to do with character of our country and the rule of law. a congressman cannot break the law. >> that's certainly right. what those ads are is his deepest, desperate ability to reset it as precisely a partisan election because he thinks that he can beat you that way. ammar campa-najar, thank you. i want to turn to -- also with me greg sergeant, an opinion writer with...

A congressman cannot break the law. >> that's certainly right. what those ads are is his deepest, desperate ability to reset it as precisely a partisan election because he thinks that he can beat you that way. ammar campa-najar, thank you. i want to turn to -- also with me greg sergeant, an opinion writer with a new book out called "an uncivil war." sabrina, you wrote a good piece about this. this is not isolated. it's widespread across a whole bunch of races across the