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Forward air controllers and spotters for the aircraft attacks. i think we need more flexibility for the use of special forces and i think we need to have embedded american trainers with the iraqi security forces, the anbar tribes and with the kurds down to at least the battalion level so that we can -- can help them be more successful. >> robert gates there. and for a closer look now at the u.s. strategy on isis, colonel peter mansoul joins us live from columbus, ohio. he is a former aide to general petraeus and author of the book surge my journey with general david petraeus and the remaking o...

And he says u.s. forces need to play a greater role on the ground in iraq. >> i think that they do need to at least revisit the rules of engagement for our troops. for the troops that we have there. i think that we need american forward air controllers and spotters for the aircraft. attacks. and i think we need -- more flexibility for the use of special forces. and, i think we need to have embedded american trainers with the iraqi security forces, the anbar tribes, and with the, the kurds, down to at least a battalion level so we can, can help them be more successful. >> robert gates there. ca...