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>> ezra has an answer for that. >> it hasn't been changed yet, because your group won't allow it to be changed. you guys lobby congress to keep it from happening, because intuit spends tens of millions of dollars a year keeping it from being changed. it's very obvious why it won't get changed, because there's a set of interest groups who don't want it to be. because for ideological or commercial reasons, they see the change being bad for their interests. >> well, it's not bad for your interests. >> california did this. they had the ready return system. it's a great program, a pilot program. 98...

Lot? ronald reagan and president obama. there's legislation in congress right now that would make it law. that would make the irs your friend. but it keeps failing. why? because people make money doing your taxes like, people like intuit, the makers of turbotax. they make more than $1 billion every year from turbotax and related services. so it was just good business for them to spend almost $2 million to kill california's experiment and the more than $11 million they've spent lobbying washington in recent years, that's good business too. and intuit's got good friends. he hates this idea, beca...

Things, but the problem is, if it's such a simple a great idea, why hasn't it been changed yet. >> ezra has an answer for that. >> it hasn't been changed yet, because your group won't allow it to be changed. you guys lobby congress to keep it from happening, because intuit spends tens of millions of dollars a year keeping it from being changed. it's very obvious why it won't get changed, because there's a set of interest groups who don't want it to be. because for ideological or commercial reasons, they see the change being bad for their interests. >> well, it's not bad for your interests. >> ...

That would make the irs your friend. but it keeps failing. why? because people make money doing your taxes like, people like intuit, the makers of turbotax. they make more than $1 billion every year from turbotax and related services. so it was just good business for them to spend almost $2 million to kill california's experiment and the more than $11 million they've spent lobbying washington in recent years, that's good business too. and intuit's got good friends. he hates this idea, because if taxes are too easy, then people won't hate them as much. norquist says the irs is, quote, trying to...

Law. that would make the irs your friend. but it keeps failing. why? because people make money doing your taxes like, people like intuit, the makers of turbotax. they make more than $1 billion every year from turbotax and related services. so it was just good business for them to spend almost $2 million to kill california's experiment and the more than $11 million they've spent lobbying washington in recent years, that's good business too. and intuit's got good friends. he hates this idea, because if taxes are too easy, then people won't hate them as much. norquist says the irs is, quote, tryi...