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He wants to be able to define the narrative before we really understand the truth of that narrative so that when the truth comes out, to your point, andrea, we're either suspicious of it or outright don't believe it. the problem is the counternarrative to what the trump administration is doing and what trump himself is doing is coming from third parties within his own administration. you have every day this week a member of his administration from the diplomatic side or, you know, the governing side, sitting in these hearings telling their story of what the trump team, rudy giuliani and others...

Ambassador to ukraine, marie owe van vichlt she testified before congress yesterday for almost ten hours and she told lawmakers president trump wanted her removed based on unfounded claims. joining me now is andrea kendall taylor. she's a former u.s. intelligence officer on russia and you ray shah. andrea is one of the former 90 national security officials who signed a letter of support of the whistle-blower who filed the complaint about the president's communications with ukraine. good morning to you. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> let's start with the president's most recent co...

Erdogan determined to push even harder to get this done. they will want to get this done before there are such sizable casualties that president erdogan is effectively forced to stop by the international outcry. of course, andrea, all of that doesn't account for the next stage that evaluathe has talked which is to try to move millions of syrian refugees in the space he's created. i don't need to tell you how difficult that kind of an operation is potentially going to be, aside from all the other issues you've been discussing. we're at the beginning of a very difficult operation by turkey and w...

>> they obviously have an indictment and under sealed and an arrest warrant. i imagine they had been following them for couple of days. they knew where they were and knew they had tickets. by the way, this is pretty good evidence, too. the fact that someone is under investigation and buys a one way ticket with no intent of turn g returning and trying to head out of the country through dallas. consciousness of guilt, andrea. >> their involvement with the biden's inquiry that rudy giuliani was trying to get started simultaneous with the smeared campaign against the ambassador who's testifying at...

With us today. an extraordinary story of your life growing up and being an refuse african-american woman in foreign policy. >> thank you, andrea, appreciate it. >> we appreciate you, thanks. coming up, senator bernie sanders vowing a vigorous 2020 campaign, dismissing criticism that he tried to downplay his heart attack. our exclusive interview. pping. you get everything you need for your home at a great price, the way it works best for you, i'll take that. wait honey, no. when you want it. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match, ...