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Rebuilt with american help and you see how you benefit from all th that. it would be like nazi germany or japan to come back to military there. there would be pearl harbor instead of the best allies of america. so yes, it is in america interest. but it's a different view of the world. that's what i call america the leader of the free world. >> understood. you're saying it's an investment in the future and in the future of democracies. well, thank you very much for giving us your perspective from having been a russian foreign minister. >> thank you. all right. there was this new national poll...

Ramifications. former russian foreign minister andre kosirev joins me now. he has just published an op-ed in "the new york times." let me just read a portion of that op-ed for everyone. you write, as the foreign minister of a newly democratic russia in 1992, i was in the same shoes as today's ukrainian leadership. when we needed and received american aid to consolidate our democracy. nobody took it for granted, but it was not viewed as just another diplomatic quid pro quo. so what is it like for you to watch this whole controversy play out now? >> yes, that's the problem. the problem is that i...

Before then-trump campaign policy adviser senator jeff sessions met with russian ambassador sergei kislyak in his senate office. today an rhea mitchell spoke to the man who once promoted ambassador kislyak to be his deputy before vladimir putin came to power. former russian minister andre kosirev explained what he thinks happened after the ambassador left jeff sessions office in september. >> the first plan he would report that sessions didn't tell him to stop the hacking. to stop the interference into american domestic policies. that's the message which kislyak, being professional, would ment...