she told something different to mr. bronstein. i guess it is hard to compare. are you expecting to receive testimony that is different from what you expected her to testify about? we have not been able to talk to mr. bernstein directly. how do you know it is going to be inconsistent? because he has told others that the only thing that he talked to ivory madison about was whether madison could get phone numbers of three individuals. we believe the testimony between the two would conflict. moreover, mr. bernstein was a former editor of the san francisco chronicle. it goes to the political nature of this case. on a factual basis alone, the fact stand for themselves. to ignore the politics of this case, to ignore the political reality, to ignore the facts they were key players in this case, and to not allow their testimony would be a great injustice. if i may go back to former mayor art agnos i would respectfully request to at least permit us to call him as a rebuttal wit