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moving forward so we can give maybe a 90 days to do the permit and, you know, six months to do the -- considering that we are entering a rainy season, allow for that. but i think we need to draw -- i mean, it isn't usual that we extend these things over and over again like this. so, i think that it might be helpful to the process if somebody draws a line. it can get done and they can battle about it. that's my concern at this point, that it get done and we minimize the possible risk here. so, that would be my motion, is to allow for -- >> six months in total seems reasonable. >> and ...

>> commissioner mccarthy? >> here. >> commissioner walker. >> here. >> commissioner mccray is expected and commissioner mel gar is excused. we have a quorum and the next item is item b, the oath. will all parties giving testimony today please stand and raise your right hand? do you swear that the testimony you are about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge? you may be seated. >> thank you. * >> all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? the minutes are approved. item d, continued appeals, case no. 675 2, 17 43 12th avenue. appellant, 17 43 12th avenue, san fran...

do you swear that the testimony you are about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge? you may be seated. >> thank you. * >> all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? the minutes are approved. item d, continued appeals, case no. 675 2, 17 43 12th avenue. appellant, 17 43 12th avenue, san francisco, california. action requested by appellant to reverse the order of abatement. for the record, commissioner mccray is present. >> good morning. >> for opponent dubrovsky. i'm reporting that since the last meeting we had a survey done in order to assess the topography tha...

19th, 2012. this is the meeting of the abatement appeals board. i would like to remind everyone to please turnoff all electronic devises. the first item on the agenda is roll call. president? >> here. >> commissioner lee? >> here. >> commissioner mar? >> here. >> commissioner mccarthy? >> here. >> commissioner walker. >> here. >> commissioner mccray is expected and commissioner mel gar is excused. we have a quorum and the next item is item b, the oath. will all parties giving testimony today please stand and raise your right hand? do you swear that the testimony you are about to give...

>> thank you for including us in "culturewire." ♪ >> good morning. today is wednesday, september 19th, 2012. this is the meeting of the abatement appeals board. i would like to remind everyone to please turnoff all electronic devises. the first item on the agenda is roll call. president? >> here. >> commissioner lee? >> here. >> commissioner mar? >> here. >> commissioner mccarthy? >> here. >> commissioner walker. >> here. >> commissioner mccray is expected and commissioner mel gar is excused. we have a quorum and the next item is item b, the oath. will all parties giving testimony ...