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From local sources. and i think that was a strength. it was one of the reasons why it came back so quickly and i think the three prizes that they now have taken from their conquest in iraq are money from mosul, arms from the iraqi military, and new operatives from the releases from the prisons. so they're definitely much stronger now than they were a month ago. >> andrew, there's new numbers on american public opinion on the threat and more and more people agreeing according to a new christian science monitor poll it's a big threat. 69% of americans saying the u.s. doesn't have a clear respons...

Arms o soldiers of the islamic state and fight, fight! joining me now, nbc news chief correspondent richard engel of baghdad and andrew linkman, analyst and spent over 30 years at the cia working on some of the issues, ro del moladu and also david anvela president of go pac. thank you all for coming. richard, let's start with the recording. does this give us new information? >> it doesn't give us much new information but i think it gives us a characterization of the organization. baghdadi doesn't consider himself the leader of isis anymore. he considers himself the caliph leading a caliphate a...

See that as a code word of drawn back into a long-term conflict in iraq and i think that's probably where you see the partisan divide as to the if i los tif i of using the might to use and stayed in iraq and that we should have troops and not just a couple hundred troops but a few thousand troops there and that we're going to be at war always with al qaeda, whether it's isis and so forth. you see more on the democratic side a nuanced approach of once again wanting to maybe find political answers to these problems. >> all right. well, thank you, richard, stay safe out. david and rodel, thank yo...

When you're dependent on funding from sponsors you are beholden to sponsors. they're not beholden to sponsors but taking money from banks, stores, some extortion. not as much as you would expect. so, it is a much more powerful organization than it was even a few weeks ago andrew, do you want to weigh in on that question of where the money is flowing in from? how much is remittance communities around the world this believe in the cause or the takings from some of their plundering as richard was telling us about? >> right. i think richard has it just about right, and in fact, it makes the group ...