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But that i think shook the country. so this week i think maybe is more indicative of the explanation that he thrives in chaos. which i just really think is an excuse to make up for the fact that his incompetence often creates chaos. and as you say, internationally, that's only a recipe for disaster. >> andrew, 30 seconds of brilliance. we also keep mentioning his comfort level people are leaving him. >> exactly. like, hope hicks, keith shiller, as you mentioned earlier, they're all heading out the door. i think what -- we've had a lot of bad weeks, but this one feels different because his staf...

J. trump was agony for him. alex -- or alec -- it was also agony for those forced to watch. you were terrible. bring back darryl hammond, much funnier and greater talent. how far is this from normal? >> at this point, i even take some solace in the celebrity and pop culture flippery because that's not going to get us killed or plunge us into economic chaos. really far from normal. i don't love playing the can you imagine if another president did it. >> go ahead. >> i can't remember when during, say, the bp oil spill, barack obama was opining about fred armisen versus jay far row. i mean, i u...

Did a segment that featured alec baldwin as the president. so from 4:23 a.m. to 5:42. andrew, same question to you. how bad is it? >> i mean, it's getting bad. you see time and time again these sort of mini scandals that happen week to week. but this week seemed a little bit different i think in part because even people inside the white house are beginning to acknowledge that things are getting a little bit crazy. i mean, the president is angry. he's stalking around the west wing. he's frustrated with his own staff. you have at least four senior staff members in the white house where it's uncl...