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Not a switchblade and is lawful under maryland law. andrew levy now we're learning that there is a local baltimore law that might make this knife that they found illegal. or might make it legal or illegal. i don't think we have andrew levy -- i'm here i'm sorry, i'm here. can you repeat your question? marilyn mosby said in her announcement of the charges that the knife was not a switch blade meaning it was lawful under maryland law. andy alperstein is saying yes, but under local battler more law, there may be a provision that doesn't make this particular knife illegal, which then would justify...

But andy, let's go to what andrew l he vy just raced which is the good faith issue. the knife turns out to be adjudged to be a legal knife. this issue of the good faith belief of the police officer, would that then be the linchpin where they could succeed and they're pleading on this point? >> well, i think the good faith -- i agree with andy levy. the good faith exception, these officers are acting in good faith and they are arresting mr. gray and mr. gray -- and they're mistaken and then we're going to just start charging police officers because they are making a good faith error, then we're...

It has to be an objectively reasonable belief. it can't be just a ridiculous idea. but typically a jury will reject it iffite not what we would say, you know, objectively reasonable. >> that's all the time we have for tonight on this. andy, andrew, thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. coming up next, breaking news from the "new york times" tonight, there are new details about the gunman involved in that texas shooting, and allegations that they are tied to the islamic state. and last week was thug week on cable news. in the rewrite tonight, i will explain why there is absolutely no...

Or might make it legal or illegal. i don't think we have andrew levy -- i'm here, i'm sorry, i'm here. can you repeat your question? marilyn mosby said in her announcement of the charges that the knife was not a switchblade meaning it was lawful under maryland law. andy alperstein is saying yes, but under local battler more law, there may be a provision that doesn't make this particular knife illegal, which then would justify the arrest. >> well, look, andy -- as andy knows, this actually gets litigated a lot. it's not uncommon for people to be charged with a dangerous weapon violation and the...

Inspect the knife the police say was found in freddie gray's possession. a careful inspection will reveal specific characteristics of the knife which will reveal that the knife was not lawful under maryland law and as such, the defendant did not illegally arrest mr. gray. joining us now, andy alperstein and andrew levy. andy halperstein, the crucial factor about this life knife is in maryland mosby's presentation of the charges, she said that because the knife was not a switchblade, because the knife is legal under maryland law, therefore, the arrest and detention of freddie gray amounted to f...