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Keel as. he is an associate of a think tank. good to have you with us. president trump and his lawyers will not participate in wednesday's impeachment hearings, insisting the process at least is unfair. are they right or wrong on that point, and how much of this is about trying to avoid legitim e legitimizing the impeachment process? >> i think it's entirely about trying to avoid legitimizing the impeachment process. there's been a calculation throughout while the narrative around the president certainly changes as more facts have come out, there has been an overarching strategy behind the whi...

Strategy. so the question of whether it's legitimate is a little bit beside the point because all of this stems from a desire to throw up as many roadblocks to the process as possible. that's why they blocked off everyone from don mcgahn to john bolton from testifying. it's why they have thrown up numerous lawsuits and legal challenges designed to delay and distract and hold on to the idea that assuming that the republicans stick together as a bloc, the entire thing will fall into the sort of predictable partisan character that even if you have majority support for impeachment, it won't cascad...