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Joining me now is imamfasul raoul, the author of "defining islamic statehood." i appreciate you joining us. what did you make of the -- he said this is not about the great people who are muslims in this country, you know, who practice islam already. this is about weeding out terrorism. there is a distinction, according to him. >> well, first of all, we all share the distinction, we all share the need to combat terrorism. muslims are the number one victims, the primary victims of terrorism. isis has killed more muslims than they've killed anonymous limbs. not to say that they're not equally bad...

West. steve everson has been with us all week. he's a terrorism expert, and he has been looking into the on line postings that we believe belong to these two men. steve, what can you tell us? >> well, one of the brothers, actually, both brothers had youtube channels in the united states. they also had youtube channels in russia, but the ones in the united states we examined about half of the 22 videos they posted. some of them are in english, some of them are in russian, most of them are in ai arabic. it's clear to me based on the videos which feature bin laden, which feature exhortations to k...