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Going back to president obama saying you don't have to do this joe. you don't have to a big groundswell of support. if biden was running it away this, we would all know it. they are not able to raise the money. there is no groundswell of support. is this a point where biden will say i will put all of these together for me. the only way is if president obama says biden is the guy. get in line. it doesn't look like obama will do that. >> take a look at pete buttigieg. he is saying that he is not the guy that obama was talking to for this anonymous quote. >> i am not. our message is resonating he...

It ain't over. let's get after it. >> they put out a statement just a moment ago about what they hear in this buzz feed report, and they knock it down in part. now buzz feed reported that michael cohen, the president's former lawyer told the special counsel that president trump directed him to lie to congress about a massive business deal he was seeking with moscow. they cited two law enforcement sources investigating it. they said they had corroborating effort. mueller's team put out a statement that says this, quote, buzzfeed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's offi...

Conservative washington examiner. she claims she found prayer rugs along the southern border. i say so what. well, the potus seems to see an opportunity to stoke fear of muslims. first of all, the reporting is odd here. it's very short on proof of whatever they're trying to prove but it's very long on bigotry. the reporting is one thing but then it's like dig any identifying an insult. the whole point of this is to stoke fear, is it not? >> facts first. we always say facts do matter. so can i just read something for you? >> please. >> here's the anonymous quote. lots of people are coming in no...

The anonymous quote. >> they say they need to be there. i have heard that from sources of my own. obviously, we would always rather have people on the record, of course, that ignore as a reality of journalism that often sources are anonymous because they're trying to protect themselves, their station or other things. when you look at the woodward book, it's not just blind quotes. it's context of meetings and events with dates where he puts you in the room. it doesn't sound like a list of he said he said. it's what happened and why. >> with all due respect, bob woodward has a longtime credibili...

We worry about his competence and his judgement. it's an unusual level of rancor and criticism from your own. >> you are right. he has hired a number of the wrong people. i don't understand as an outsider, as a non-interventionist president, somebody who is outside the two party that has run the country into the ground, why he made some of the personnel choices that he has made. i disagree with many of the picks. now i think unfortunately, some of the chickens are coming home to roost. what i would point out is the people you refer to, they don't say these things on the record, unless, like th...