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Reenforcement for exactly every color of cynicism and suck we have about covid. people who are anti-vax are hesitant or against mandates or getting fueled into this thing of big brother, they're going to support him. even though it may be the case he's done everything wrong. on the other side, people are going to want to see him canceled. i don't think that's right, either. i want to hear him own it. that's what we need. that's what everybody needs -- the fans, society, someone to just own the truth. >> well new, no matter how anti-science, anti-facts, anti-common sense some of the anti-vaxxer...

On the other side, people are going to want to see him canceled. i don't think that's right, either. i want to hear him own it. that's what we need. that's what everybody needs -- the fans, society, someone to just own the truth. >> well, no matter how anti-facts, anti-science, anti-common sense some of the anti-vaxxers are, people like carson wentz and cole beasley and kirk cousins in the nfl are more celebrated, certainly the more focus case of kyrie irving in the nba, say whatever you want they've all owned it. they've all come out and say this is what i believe, this is what i'm doing. aar...