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Because he is so establishment? >> well, you know, it's interesting because as i travel the country, i have been in 20 states since the beginning of the year. i have yet to meet a person that says they support bush. not one, i met thousands and thousands of people. it's stunning to me. i think he prep sents the establishment. as i travel across the country and talk to people on the left and right, the idea of the clinton/bush race is something they are not ready for. they don't want to hear those names. >> you brought up sanders in the same breath as antiestablishment, but he is the antitea pa...

Mcdaniel, anti tea party, a concern that maybe these folks would embarrass the state in the senate, or empower a democrat to really take them out. so that really motivates i think a lot of the opposition in the mississippi race, not just a love of senior citizens, brooke. >> not at all. not what i was insinuating at all. john avalon, i liked your word heritage in congress. thank you, my friend. just ahead, this move has everyone talking. luis suarez appears to bite an opposing player in a world cup game. we talked about this yesterday. pushing forward today, could this mean he's band from so...

Obamacare. >> some interpret that as being antitea party at the time and they said some of your recent statements double down on the notion you. said recently the senate -- they're participating in ruining the republican brand. they mislead donors into believing the reason we can't get as good an outcome as we'd like to get is not because of a democratic senate but because republicans are insufficiently committed to the cause, which is utter nonsense. now, that sounds like what john mccain told me pretty much word for word, but do you recollection and do you mine -- do you risk and do you mind...

Effect. >> haley barber that domino? who is the domino that would panic everybody? >> mike pence and mitch daniels. daniels is kind of being, whether hemt he wants to or not, the antitea party candidate. not sarah palin. a very cerebral government base. talking to me recently, said i want to make the math work on this. presidential candidates don't usually talk about math. not a traditional message for a fired up republican base. on the other hand, pence i think is an interesting guy. probably the best chance of unifying the conservative tea party base and being a guy, is he a conservative dow...

>> is there a political price to pay for looking like you're working too close to the president with some republicans? are there going to be some who feel not as we begin the presidential election, i'm not going to work too close ly with him. what's the line there? >> i think if you find areas where the president wants to meet republicans on spending, reducing spending, if the president wants to meet republicans on areas that try to make the government more efficient and spur jobs and help spur the private sector, then there's going to be, i think that everybody will be rewarded in the end. th...