And people of russia will be hurt. so it's very important to keep this dialogue going at the united nations, expose the lies of russia, and ultimately bring international law against them as well as other means of resistance. >> general, i want to ask you, that adviser to the interior ministry of ukraine, his name is anton gerashenko, who said that the invasion has begun. also saying here that control centers such as air fields and military headquarters are being hit by the shelling. do you expect russia to take kyiv? >> i think -- i think that russia will move forward and try to take land tha...