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The american people probably get that these political parties hate each other enough for that really, if someone was willing to do all of the things on this one political side against another, what can we do? >> steve: this is worse than that. this is not just political. this is the involvement of the bureaucracy. which is supposed to be impartial. this is not running negative ads and so on and digging up dirt. >> harris: bias of an agency. getting the. >> harris: what should be accountability? hairs whars is the penalty for that? >> katie: jail. if you were wiretapping your opponent. if you a...

Talk about collusion during the campaign. so why is it that lawmakers on capitol hill, especially adam schiff who has political goals here in addition to what he says is finding the truth. why do they want to know all the details about the transition when it actually doesn't have anything to do with the initial purpose of the investigation? >> harris: i think another reason why the white house is probably wise to do this and certainly within their bounds to do this is because steve bannon was talking in the book about things that he didn't have direct knowledge of. and so i don't know how much...

That trump campaign conspired with the russians to win the election. i don't think anyone really believes that now, along the way there may have been missteps and coverups and so on. but the fundamental point is just completely been lost because no one really believes in it. >> harris: well, i don't know how -- you know, i would want to get some legal counsel on whether or not it's not okay for attorney to talk to attorney in realtime. is it a measure of technology? i mean, certainly it wasn't open to the public. but, how is that any different than things necessarily. >> sandra: interesting yo...

Stay in his job rather than quit for the very reason that he does care about the rule of law, he cares about the investigation, and his judgment by his description and it now makes more sense was that he could advance justice and advance the investigation more by staying in place and trying to see that through because he was aware of the way that donald trump might react. donald trump did react that way, he fired him. the same is potentially true for rosenstein and mueller. and i think neither of those men are going to be eager to make it any easier for the president to impede the investigatio...

Get all the information out as quickly as possible. the campaign has not done that you have had this drip drip drip. now we are in this scenario of the monthlily release of emails reminds us of that she has lost control of the story. >> all right. there is breaking news. the a.p. is now reporting emails russian hackers tried to break five times into her email -- into her private server. that's a.p. is reporting. breaking news just crossing seconds ago that russian hackers tried five times. >> wow she has held out the security of her own email. >> tried is a little different than accomplish in ...