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Astronauts. we knew that the russians had cosmonauts that would follow like the dog. i think we expected that the mercury program would set the pace and would lead toward the apollo program but we were smart enough to fill the gap with the gemini program and that gave me through being in the right place at the right time an opportunity to fly on gemini 12. so i think, we, sort of lagged behind but it was gemini 10, 11 and 12 that caught up. but then of course we were set behind again he about the apollo 1 fire that took my good friend ed white and we celebrate now with the three tragedies of a...

Any around the moon and back by a soviet soyuz, we certainly gained momentum. now we didn't actually follow the apollo program with a very enlightened program of catching up to where we had leaped ahead. and i've got a lot to say about mistakes that were made in designing a two-stage, fully reusable after apollo. we became a jobs program at nasa. how can you find enough jobs to spread around to enough politicians so that we can get votes for the space program. short term versus long term gains. jon: that's what i want to talk about with tom jones. this is after all, tom jones, the 25th anniver...

"apollo 1"" astronauts died in a test run for the first moon launch. eight years ago next week, seven "columbia" astronauts died when the shuttle broke up on reentry. firefighters have just about extinguished a blaze at the norfolk, virginia, naval station. naval firefighters and city crews are on the scene, still no word on what start add the fire and so far no injuries reported. a stop me if you've heard this one before. freezing temperatures, snow piling up in the northeast. that's right, the region getting socked again. we'll take you there next.

Right, jamie, for cady and family, with time together becoming more infrequent, they squeeze in and soak up as much as every precious saekd lous. after launch, this saturn 5 center to see an old moon rocket. >> this is the final stage. >> i think ours is smaller. >> reporter: then, a trip over to launch complex 34. most people don't get to see this place. it is not on the tourist tour. it probably should be. >> they were breathing pure oxygen. it was a lot easier to have a fire. >> reporter: astronauts gris many, white and chaffey died here, apollo 1, 1967. there is a weather brief and a plaqu...

Center to see an old moon rocket. >> this is the final stage. >> you know what? i think our soyuz is smaller. >> jump a little. shout, straightforward. can you hear it coming back at you? >> then at complex, 34. most people don't get to see this place. it's not on the tourist tour. it probably should be. >> they were breathing pure oxygen and it was a lot easier to have a fire. >> grissom, white and chafee died here. apollo 1, 1967. there's a weathered wreath and a plaque. that's it. >> they gave their lives and service to their country. a flash fire in the command module during a test. >> whe...