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Thrust that from the very beginning, bringing trump to moscow for this was essentially a russian intelligence operation that he was being cultivated from the beginning, that they -- and sort of stewarded the whole way along. what's your judgment based on what we know from the shiller testimony or from other things we've learned about the applause ability of that? >> it definitely seems like russia was making a play at cultivating donald trump from very early on. the dossier says that it went back for as long as five years. we obviously don't know whether or not that's true. but again it wouldn...

Or not he had traveled to the city with trump. and that really just -- it's kind of hard to believe. >> one of the aspects of the dossier that i find the most explosive, and it's obviously totally unconfirmed, is a basic thrust that from the very beginning, bringing trump to moscow for this was essentially a russian intelligence operation that he was being cultivated from the beginning, that they -- and sort of stewarded the whole way along. what's your judgment based on what we know from the shiller testimony or from other things we've learned about the applause ability of that? >> it definit...

Has to lead one to the interrance that it was a human involvement. there has to be a hijacking or a stolen aircraft. >> if someone shhas the airplan that's a stretch. sometime in the next 12 moptnth they might do something with those options. it doesn't look good. we can make excuses but there are too many points here that don't add up. >> they suggests he believes the plane could have made it to pakistan and that's where we need to be looking and that's what we need to be worried about. >> tom is a friend of mine. i understand his theory there. what gives some applause ability to it and i wou...

Obamacare. i don't have any response to that but i know many who took a dim view for the applause ability and what it says about foreign policy. i will leave it to others to make that assessment. healthcare.gov will be fixed by the deadline the administration made itself this saturday. >> they knew it would fell and they rolled forward. supposed to be fixed in less than a week from now but they know it will not happen. not everyone is so down on healthcare.gov. >> access to observe care is a failure at this time and it needs to be fixed. >> the president policy focus today will be immigration ...