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Supporters that basically treat those lies as applause lines. >> the best example is -- >> at a loss. >> yeah, well, the best example is president nixon, and even that is a little tricky -- no dork pun intended. there was a sense during, really starting in the spring of '73, forward into the summer of '74, when president nixon -- it was unclear at some point whether he was lying to us, lying to himself as well as to us. >> right, but can i broaden the question? >> sure. >> what is this reminiscent to even outside of the united states? >> well, you're alluding to fabled and terrible totalitaria...

>> steven, the president said that the world is not going to laugh at us anymore. i'm not sure what his constant reference to people laughing at us is about or where that comes from, but do you believe this was in any way about politics or was this purely based on economics? >> i certainly think donald trump should keep the promises that he made. i was on the campaign trail with him at times when he made this declaration. it was one of his strongest applause lines. americans who voted for trump in no small part voted for him precisely because of that. he was crystal clear about what he was goi...

He turned to jerry falwell, the president of the university here, and said, see, jerry. i told you i would do it and i did. he was celebrating that accomplishment and pushing back. >> i was prepping the show. i wasn't able to keep my eyes glued on everything in the broadcast of this, but were there standing ovations? was there thunderous applause? was it the kind of reaction you think he had either hoped for or expected to get there? >> reporter: well, of course it was primed for that when jerry falwell got up to the microphone and said it was a record setting crowd. the stadium was, in fact, ...

He had surrogates defending this. even after the election i remember rudy giuliani getting in heated exchanges and it's only after two courts have thrown it out that they seem to have any appetite for distances themselves from what they have all called it. now they push back and say it's not a muslim ban, it's a travel ban. well, we didn't name it, they called it a muslim ban, it was an applause line in every one of his campaign speeches. so now they're in a legal conundrum and they would like to rebrand it, something donald trump is known for in business but we'll see if that has any currency...

Bunch of those facts, half that audience doesn't have a dime in the stock market. the growth numbers is he betting on everything to work by this economy going three% ffo to 4%, friday it was.7%. it's not what he's going to need. >> you're right. in the end, what's going to matter in terms of trump's -- the success of his presidency and whether he gets reelected is not any of the stuff that we're talking about right now, it's about whether he gets this economy moving again and gets us up to 3%, 4%, 5% as he's talked about. i wish he had talked a little bit more about his tax plan baiz because t...