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His agenda especially as it relates to obama care. a lot of applause lines there. on the other hand you have these town halls where a number of lawmakers, republican included, are showing up and getting man blasted. do you think republicans got a little bit surprised? >> well, i think it's probably first of all republicans would e making a big mistake to dismiss it as if it is less than important. i think democrats learned that message the hard way when they dismissed the tea party in 2010. the president made an important point that probably the most politically expedient think republicans cou...

That don't speak to more than a few thousand elites that are interested in being being part of a transnational order. > melissa: charmy, what do you think of all of that? >> i think jonah is probably right. listening to his speech. biggest applause lines are isolational. and killing tpp and any pipeline that is made in the u.s. will be made with pipes made in the united states. and then other lines, he said presidents for the past 15 years could have gone to the beach and be better off today. that was a direct shot at the last conservative president we had. george bush and the crowd loved it. ...

Having a sort of bipartisan commitment to the norms and procedures of liberal democracy is even if the people in the crowd want just red meat. >> to play devil's advocate, this is a crowd for a statesman-like speech on the importance of bipartisanship in government given that it's cpac. isn't that the message you are sending? >> that's why tim is there. that's why he's been there 15 of the last 17 years. he gives the red meat. the president should come in and be -- he can be plenty conservative, plenty argumentative and combative. but part of being president is educating your followers as well...

Wall. there were a couple lines that drew applause. we had a poll reporter inside there and some were applauding and some were not. >> these are people who chose to come in on a saturday. >> i understand what you're saying. but if it was inappropriate to say these things -- >> according to the poll report, the senior leadership sat stone faced and really just applauded at the end. >> all i'm going by is what we've heard. >> a reporter said -- >> that is right. our reporter was there and in fact is. you heard it on the tape and some laughed for some lines, right. others did not, right? and i su...

We've heard. >> a reporter said -- >> that is right. our reporter was there and in fact is. you heard it on the tape and some laughed for some lines, right. others did not, right? and i suppose -- and mark has got a lot of friends. i've got some friends in the community of people who ideal with and you heard the former cia director appalled. you make the point that some chose to be there. but let's be clear. no one was applauding him not revering the wall, right? i mean there was some rally like applause lines there. >> i'm just saying that if that's the case, then you need to apply the same s...