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Explaining this new cnn reporting and the transcripts. let's bring in cnn political analyst david gregory ar asha and former clinton white house secretary joe lockhart. asha wrarnt asha, i want to start with you. it's fascinating to read these transcripts just so you could hear the fbi thinking. there were too many strange and suspicious things that had piled up that it sounds like from the transcripts, they couldn't do anything but open an investigation into what was happening with then candidate donald trump. >> right. this is the problem when you are worried about a counterintelligence thre...

>> it's unthinkable, david, it's unthinkable to imagine what would be happening if this were hillary clinton or barack obama. of all the suspicious things that have piled up over the past two years, this reporting in "the washington post" and "new york times" has picked up on it is beyond head scratching in the is a jaw-dropping moment. people in president trump's own administration don't know what he discussed with vladimir putin. here is another paragraph, this one from "the new york times" this weekend. several administration officials asked the interpreter. there was one interpreter that t...

Aren't in hiding, arguing that, oh, this is just rogue fbi agents. americans should hope that one of the theories when you start an investigation is someone's innocent. you don't go into the investigation knowing -- >> and the transcript proves that's what they said, maybe he's innocent. >> and i think asha rightly points out that this may come down to a question ultimately of did the president act as a foreign agent or is he just a rub? w rube? but the problem is that will all get sorted out. he has been doing russia's work from the beginning. look at the rhetoric he uses, the gans story, the...

Democracy, he's gone against democracy. >> look at helsinki. look at what he said publicly in helsinki. that's just the public part we know about. >> when it comes not just with russia, with other places in the world, when it comes to trusting a foreign authoritarian leader or his own staff and intelligence community, he's gone with the authoritarian. so the damage is done. what what we have to sort through now, is how bad is it from -- for trump personally? >> and also what happens next with this, asha take off your intelligence hat and put on your legal hat here, democrats now control the ho...