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Wishes. >> she has pointed out that there are pass annaages in the judge's ruling to where the judge points how how it can go to court assuming you reach certain points in trying to resolve it all with a rbitratio. >> first it's premature. the trump defendants have time to full-time thetime to file th. they have indicated they plan to file a motion to enforce the arbitration provision. it hasn't happened yet. the judge did say that the motion for the deposition was denied without prejudice. it means the parties can bring it again. after those other events occur the lawyer for stormy daniels

>> stormy daniels and mcdougal's cases both involve contracts and they both involve arbitration agreements. the trump team is going to push their hardest to get cases out of court and back into arbitration because arbitration favors trump, it favors cohen, it favors ec consultants. the one individual who does not have a contract dispute is summer zervos. it's a civil wrong, it has nothing to do with a contract and accordingly there is no arbitration provision that she's subject to, and with the court's opinion this week, allowing it to go forward, that means the next phase here in new york is ...

Is, if you want to have a binding contract, chris, you have to look at the intent of the parties. and if you look at the intent of the parties, you can look at things like e-mails, correspondence, letters in order to prove the intent of the parties to enter into a binding contract. that contract would be that nondisclosure agreement that karen mcdougal is challenging right now and the fact that she's bringing a lawsuit means she want the opportunity to be able to have that discovery process occur so things like interrogatories and depositions, things that could help provide the information tha...

Team e.c., team trump, team michael cohen. it's very strongly worded in their favor. and the law tends to favor the arbitration of disputes rather than resolving them in court where the parties have agreed to arbitrate. and nothing can get away from the fact that ms. clifford, stormy daniels, did originally sign an agreement that contained that arbitration provision. >> took the money. i want you to respond to that. i'm also curious what the risks are as you see them if it gets out of arbitration, if she's able to keep it in court. is there any lueke hood that happens given what we have now? >...

For justice. with us at the table, allison rosati ee melber, and the host of the beat which has had a banner week, ari, thank you for squeezing us in. john heilman, nbc national affairs analyst whom we've installed the 6 second delay we hope is enough today. lydia, huff post editor in chief. under secretary of state for public diplomacy, msnbc analyst. let me start with my legal questions before i turn to the other side of the story with heilman and others. this idea that sarah huckabee sanders tried to advance in the briefing that some case had been won, what is she talking about? >> she seem...