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The institutions exist for the slot of the person who wins the major party. >> and he got the slot. >> he got the slot. >> as someone who -- i'm happy that she's there. i'm happy that the church has opened up that little bit. so if i say that, she can sit there even though she's pro choice, then i can't really say he shouldn't have been invited. >> yeah, that's right. but that's exactly the line that we're all dealing with, charlie, i think, in this campaign. to me it's clear that there's something distinct, novel and unique about what trump represents but that's sort of in the eye of the beho...

Other side either having listened to his locker room talk. >> what is your feeling about how they play this. i think particularly from trump's side, like does he have -- i guess you can hire a good joke writer to make you self-deprecating even if it's not in your natural nature. >> yes. self-deprecating humor and graciousness are obviously not in donald trump's skill set. i'm watching the picture of this. archbishop dolan, cardinal dolan used to be archbishop of milwaukee. i'm trying to figure out what's going through his mind to the left of him, to the right of him, he's a savvy guy. he knows...

Easy-going, lighthearted affair. the two people front and center tonight, they didn't even shake hands at last night's debate. for trump who was seen gritting his teeth following the debate, down in most polls according to "the new york times" will be seated on the dais with eric schneiderman, new york attorney general, whose office currently has an investigation into mr. trump's foundation, it doesn't sound likely trump will be in the mood for dinner that's taken on the air of a roast. >> i was actually hoping the president would bring joe biden along this evening because he'll laugh at anyth...

For instance. what's your feeling? >> but unfortunately, we do -- he does. >> set against the backdrop of that. >> so surreal in so many ways. these two candidates are so inappropriate for this setting. here you have this thrice-married libertine who brags about his affairs and talks about grabbing women by their private parts, then she's there after having made a really strong statement on abortion last night. you remember that her husband was not invited to this dinner. he didn't come. mondale had debate prep, because he was afraid of the abortion politics. >> and kerry didn't go. >> jimmy c...

I think particularly from trump's side, like does he have -- i guess you can hire a good joke writer to make you self-deprecating even if it's not in your natural nature. >> yes. self-deprecating humor and graciousness are obviously not in donald trump's skill set. i'm watching the picture of this. archbishop dolan, cardinal dolan used to be archbishop of milwaukee. i'm trying to figure out what's going through his mind to the left of him, to the right of him, he's a savvy guy. he knows what is in the wikileaks e-mails about the catholic church. he has no illusions about donald trump's charact...