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You've done a series of shows on race and you travel around the country talking to people about race. and you hear that things are worse than they were before -- >> no, that's not true. >> and i think about your childhood in alabama and what was going on back then, and, you know, i wonder if -- >> first of all, anyone who says race relations aren't better, that's just idiotic. racism does exist and always will, but for people to say things aren't better that's just ridiculous. i mean i can actually enter a restaurant i want to, go in the same bathroom and drink out of the same water fountain. ...

Recognize that great progress has been made. >> many civil rights leaders are thrilled withhelder's move but critics say the justice department is trying to make an end run around the supreme court's decision what do you say? >> i think the department of justice is doing a wise thing. i agree with anna. it is not 1960s. that means things aren't better, but things are different. we no longer have the kkk intimidating blacks. we have other things to intimidate minorities and other things to manipulate poll results. just because we don't see burning crosses doesn't mean the situation in the south...

So christine, there's many new drugs that are beneficial, no question about that, and it's important that people understand that. but still, many of the new drugs that come out aren't better. the new diabetes drugs, well they lower blood sugar, but they don't reduce heart disease any better than the older, less expensive drugs. new, only means that the drug has been approved by the fda and that it's better than nothing. but new also means that the safety of the drug hasn't been tested in the large number of people who are going to be taking it once the drug is released on the market. >> let me...

Medicare as we know it. and i'm not -- i'm not going to sign up for that. having said that, we are going to have to reform reform medicare and our entire health care system in order to improve quality for the amount of money that we spend. because we spend much more money in this country on health care than any other industrialized country and our outcomes aren't better. and that's what we started doing with health care reform last year. essentially, what we said was, let's not just dump these additional costs on seniors. i mean, it's not hard to save the government money if you're willing to ...

Money to athis end them. >> reporter: catholic schools are able to choose their textbooks and teachers because they don't get tangled up big bureaucracies or unions. >> the teacher and the principal have a real opportunity in a catholic school to be the leaders. and they make curriculum choices. close to the students. >> reporter: but some educators say catholic schools aren't better, they just have better students because they can be picky about whom they let in. >> catholic schools do not have to accept every student like a public school does. catholic schools can expel students easier than ...