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Players in the impeachment probe. beyond just mcgahn. reporting from washington. >> reporter: the ruling that democrats are hailing that force mcgahn to testify before the house judiciary committee is not going to impact how the house is moving in its own impeachment proceeding that could lead to the vote of the president being impeached before the end of year. democrats do not want to go the route they went with mcgahn. when it comes to other witnesses who defied subpoenas. like mick mulvaney. pompeo. bolton. charles cupperman. who resisted demands to come and testify before the house impeach...

Presumably seen as -- >> it's been one of the i think for many people watching it's been one of the bizarre transformations of somebody who had a different reputation. and many now as seen as just being the right hand man to the president. and pursuing a range of politics that don't look like they're above board. the one thing we're seeing is americans attitudes towards the impeachment aren't changing. they're locked in place. there's a question of how independents may change their minds as they watch. and watch the trial and the senate. i think that will influence people as we approach the el...

Same time the case is already appealed by the justice department. that may not be resolved for sometime. schiff made it cloer before the ruling saying in a letter they were not going to let the president or others drag this out for months on end in the court. they're making clear these individuals don't want to testify it's on them. they'll use that as evidence of obstruction of congress. they believe could be rolled into an article of impeachment. the ruling does add pressure from democrats to also include in articles of impeachment article of obstruction of justice. of course laid out in the...

>> my skepticism about texas is not that the demographics aren't changing, not that there isn't opportunity, my skepticism is that the national party on the democratic side doesn't want to put the amount of money it would take to actually activate. did beto o'rourke invest enough that actually it's no longer as expensive to sort of seed texas? is there a enough residual? did he leave anything there? or is this going to be something that the democrats have to build from scratch again? >> the democrats really have to build this from scratch. i mean representative o'rourke showed that he can rais...

Children though. the doctor joins me now. good to see you, doctor. thanks for being here. >> good morning, kate. >> you have been to the facility where some of these children are held. that was the -- the first time that we actually spoke last summer is after one of your visits. now that you're writing -- now you're writing that no child should be subjected to these facilities at all, where they are sleeping on cement floors, lies are on 24/7. the temperatures can be frigid. what is it that you think that people are missing about this because the conditions aren't changing, doctor, and the cri...