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By how much has business taken a hit since he's been president? >> right. what's interesting is we're seeing these hits in his legacy businesses, old office buildings in manhattan with a bunch of new office buildings coming online aren't doing as well as he or the banks that first issued him loans would have liked, which means these licensing deals that have come under scrutiny during his presidency where he works with international partners to create trump branded properties around the world are more important to him than we previously thought relatively that these other businesses. >> licens...

First off, this process would be greatly helped if not made an exact science by access to the president's tax returns. so guys like you have to study everything else available, right? >> that's correct. so we're going through mortgage documents. we're going through company finances. we're going through the annual financial report that he personally files with the government to try and make up for the fact that we don't have the sort of information we're typically uses to having when it comes to a u.s. president. >> he's supposed to be separated from his financial world, from the world of trump...

Access to the president's tax returns. so guys like you have to study everything else available, right? >> that's correct. so we're going through mortgage documents, we're going through company finances, we're going on through the annual financial report that he personally files with the government to try and make up for the fact we don't have the sort of information we're used to having. >> he's supposed to be separated from his financial world. having said that, how is it and by how much has business taken a hit since he's been president? >> right. what's interesting is we're seeing these hi...

This, what if our whole lives for the next year and a half are just answering reporters' questions about the scandals consuming the white house thatty with don't want to answer for and aren't doing -- can't do anything about and they are not going to be having a lot of fun if that's the case. >> i think one of them compared it to the last seen in "reservoir dogs." what would you do theoretically, you don't work for the white house, but were you to call up to fork for leadership? what would you tell them? >> i worked for senator arlen specter. >> yeah. >> listen, i think there's a lot being don...

Inaugural fund. twice the size of obama's, over $100 million. and people giving to that fund aren't doing so because they're trying to relieve the burdens of the poor. they're doing it because they're trying to curry favor with somebody who's about to become very powerful. >> or even this is key about the inaugural fund. or even backing a candidate they want to see win, right? i mean even that is -- they are not backing someone and taking a risk particularly when trump was not particularly popular among certain parts of the donor class. they're backing the winner. they are making a payment to ...