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Behind the surge. patients in the hospital, of course, for days or weeks, then dying from this. you can see that death toll right there in new york steadily rising and those new highs three days in a row. but i wanted to show you something else tonight, because there is a glimmer of hope. look at this. also from new york state, and it shows the rate of increase of new cases in the state steadily falling in recent days. of course, let's hope that holds and that it will eventually be reflected in the death rate. we can hope. scientists say this shows that the social distancing is working. tonigh...

Out to republicans, the four senators they need to win, like leaka murkowski? >> there's a couple of republicans. murkowski being one. mitt romney being the other, that democrats can reach across the aisle and have reasonable conversations with. but those two aren't enough. i think what republicans have to figure out, particularly those in cycle, people like cory gardner, martha mcsalley, susan collins. you have about 75% of americans that say they want to see witnesses and get to the bottom of this. witnesses has become a catchphrase for, let the people who know what happened talk. and those ...

And just haven't had a place to express it. >> susan, the numbers are overwhelming when it comes to evangelical support for the president. do you think this can change things? >> i think what it represents is an opportunity for that voting bloc maybe not to all come out in support of donald trump. they may not vote for the democrat, but they may stay home, which is a big concern for any republican running for president. so, that could be certainly if donald trump. the other thing that is really por important about this opinion piece is that it recognizes the fact that donald trump, i want to l...

In particular. one democratic lawmaker, and they said, they have the president's words, the president's words aren't enough. they don't need someone like john bolt ton confirm what they heard the president say themselves? >> right. the point of view with house democrats that we've talked to extensively with this. they say they have all of the facts that they need to make the case. now the public fact-finding portion of this is now over. house staff committee members have not announced any more hearings. they've not announced any additional closed-door depositions. as the house intelligence com...

>> no question about it, and that's why they did what they did.am the democrats know it's unfair, it's absurd to impeach a president in secret. they have always known that. and they were betting the american people were too stupid to care or too dumb to notice. >> laura: may have the veil of transparency now, we're going to open it up. what exactly are they opening up? what? >> very little. but are they going toat do? how do they go back and recreate seven weeks of secret hearings? how do they go back and fix that? and i suppose they are going to have some in open session now, but are they goi...